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 Project: Lanmunition V1 [Sponsored by Mnpctech.com]
Hey Guys! Posted here as requested by Craig which im quite happy about because it gives me chance to be involved and not just lurk Anyway this is just a quick opening to this project because the log will be copyed from another forum and im afraid some of my jabbering on might make no sense at all to some of you so heres a brief overview Pc in watertight ammo box designed for lan partys This is my First version of this thats why the hardware sucks im not willing to pay out on something thats going to be a pile of crap (to put it blunt) i will be doing a V2 hopefully soon 90% of all stuff used in this build is recycled! when i start on V2 i will be buying better stronger materials and hardware i'll go ahead and post the updates down feel free to leave any questions for stuff that does'nt make sense 
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Project: Lanmunition Ghetto EditionSponsorsIm delighted to introduce my first sponsor to this project, Mnpctech.com! They will be sponsoring me with the following Mnpctech Case mod store Round Hole Modders Mesha sheet of 12" x 12" Round hole modders mesh U channel6ft of Mnpctech U channel moulding Overkill GrillsAn "Overkill" Sniper fan grill Big thanks to Bill for this! [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbUFRdaJ7xo"]YouTube- Project Lanmunition- Early Stages[/url] Hey guys i've been holding this off for a little while to get a few updates under my belt This is my casemod worklog for Project Lanmunition loosely inspired by other projects this is an ever evolving project that will only get better this is what i've called my "Ghetto edition" what this means is 95% of the materials used in this project will be stuff i have the only money i will spend is £8.50 on the case and possibly money on spray paint. A few disclaimers before is start -Im a very poor photographer many of the pictures where taken quickly and a few will be out of focus i apologize in advance but i try my best  -Some of the project you will find similiar to other ammo case pc builds but its very difficult to get past some similiaritys im trying to make it as unique as i can -It is a joint project my dad is helping because he is the one with all the tools :biggrin_mini: Update 1So one day i was walking into my local town when i saw a army surplus store and thought "I wonder what they have in there!?" after looking around i saw something very cool a 25mm hard plastic ammo case it seemed perfect for a themed mod project the best part of it was it was only £8.50 Heres the victim 25mm hard plastic ammunition case   After some boring lessons at college i decided to scribble down some concepts for the design sadly my scanner sucks so i had to take a picture of them but you get the idea    Runing across the case i noticed alot of damage, rust, dirt and grime almost like it had been through a war (wait a second...) anyway this was the first port of call before anything! i new the rusty latches where first the paint was flaking of in large pieces revealing thick rust even underneith the paint :scratch_one-s_head:   its was really bad i started to wonder if i could be salvaged but i could'nt give up it was time to get out the wire brush after a little scrubbing large amounts of it was coming of but still some was being a pain and not wanting to leave my plan was to get down to bare metal this seemed a little hard when i first saw that latches time for some paint stripper!  this was like one hundred times better than what they where like at the start but still in a big mess!  after some more wire brushing it was time to bring out the big guns the angle grinder and sander :diablo_mini:      after a little work it was finally looking good there was still light orange rust underneith in the next pictures but eventually that was gone :i_am_so_happy:   Thats all for now folks ALOT! more to come  NOTE: the arms in the picture are my dads he likes power tools 
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Back with some more updates guys Update 2It was time to do the front panel but first it was finding some material that would do it :scratch_one-s_head: i had a piece of aluminum diamond plate hanging around that seemed the perfect size after a tool search i realized it would almost be improssible to cut with what i had on hand  it was thick as hell and would break any blade easily so it was back to the drawing board we needed something that was strong but not thick because we needed switchs to bolt from the front we found a piece of white topped hardboard lying around and i don't mean the flexible stuff you find on the back of flat pack ikea furniture this was reasonably thick nice and strong stuff which fit the bill perfectly :biggrin_mini2: Time to get cutting!   measure twice cut once sadly im a dumbass and measured wrong twice >_< but not to worry i was only a millimetre or so out of each side so a little bit of sanding and trimming would do the trick :i_am_so_happy: after it was done the opening of the case was rounded so we took a wild guess on the rounding and beleive it or not it was a perfect fit!! sadly forgot to take a picture of that we found a piece of aluminum lying around the cheap flexible stuff and had the idea of wrapping the front in that after using some of the scissors you can use to cut it we gave it up as a bad job it just would'nt look right either  we managed to find alot of switches which would work ideally for are project toggles, keyswitches and good old push buttons they where all roughly the same which was nice i was going for the military radio look but before we could go cutting holes left right and centre we needed to create a test panel to make sure we don't screw anything up we managed to find a piece of the same hardboard but all dirty which seemed better than chucking it out =] heres a little colour comparison to give you an idea  with a little rough marking we got the first few switches in  The keyswitch and push button will be for on this means you need to activate the key before you can turn the system on or in the same way have the key activated to switch of meaning no little shi... (you no what i was gonna say) is going to come round turning your system of in the middle of being top of the leaderboard in call of duty :diablo_mini: Toggles are for fans 1 guarenteed another is a maybe but the third is for some i will add later on in the project possibly cathodes switches in the mockup panel   The proper panel eventually will be a matte black but of course testing first :whistling: it was time to mount the panel and for this i had to give up on the keeping the outside original  but no worrys the holes could be ressed for the screws and seeming there was some plastic strut support inside i could use them aswell managed to find some L brackets lying around that seemed ideal   after we put them in the panel sat perfect except from one side :/ it would cave sideways with a little weight fixed with a good old self tapper for support i did'nt wnat to screw it down completely because having small space i would need to get inside from both sides for upgrading Seeming the case was so small we needed some airflow to keep it cool in there it was time to make a fan hole sadly i could only find a 6cm hole saw for are 8cm fan :blink: no worrys though i will be adding some special at the rear to pull that hot air out  still need to get hold of some wide u channel to clean up that edge and a fan grill to make it look a little nicer. Not screwed in just mocked up again  Now time to see this baby on the case   The door shuts nicely on it aswell :yes:  Another comparison the mockup in the case next to the eventual real panel outside the case  even though im about 5% done i can really see this project shaping up thats all for now folks more updates to come 
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Back with some more updates Update 3Since we got the main outline done it was time to see where are system was going to fit being onlye a 233mhz cyrix it was'nt crucial really how it went in but we needed to know for when we upgrade after moving everything back and forth we finally came to the conclusion nothing fit :scratch_one-s_head: well it kinda did but the power supply was just to big in an ideal world i would be using a microatx psu but since this is a ghetto project we had to improvise since i suck with electronics it was time for my dad to step in being an electrician and all after tussling with the powersupply we finally came to the conclusion the only way we could do this and carry on with the project was removing it from its case [color="#FF0000"] DISCLAIMER: Removing your power supply from its case is NOT a good idea i did not do this by myself my dad is a trained electrician and even he said this really was'nt a clever thing to do so if you try redo any of this project get a microatx psu! [/color] just needed to put that in there :i_am_so_happy: anywho so on to the psu mods first was removing from the case    Now it is very important to ground the powersupply this particular one (not so sure about others) was grounded to the case then it went from the case to the outlet  since the case was a very tight squeeze we needed somewhere to mount it that would'nt be in contact with any vital components because of the small space of the bottom of the case we figured it was best mounting the powersupply upside down and having the sticker mean't we could drill and bolt through hiding it when reapplying the original sticker  here it is mounted on bolts and using nuts as standoffs to position it just right  sorry for my poor pictures   while he finished of and made sure this thing would'nt blow us sky high i began prepping for the install first port of call was the clean down this case was rather dirty and even though it added to the look it was hardly practical look what i walked out to! RAIN!!  but did that stop me from modding? Hell no i just grabbed on my coat and started scrubbing   damn this thing turned out to be more dirty than i expected you can see the murky water in the nooks and crannys on the case ignore the white thats just the flash reflecting of the water on the surface   i was sitting on a soaking wet step  i decided it was time to call it a day i was'nt happy with the amount of cleaning but i could'nt feel my hands by then end of it i will have to do some more when it stops =[ so i left it to dry out and went back in [url="http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8075/18400493.jpg"]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8075/18400493.jpg[/url] i was pondering over the idea of putting some sort of design in the square of the case so i made a post luckily Dragon Gamer and Photoshop wizard came to the rescue and knocked up some designs for me that where just what i was looking for! i decided to go with Photoshop Wizards but will still be using Dragon Gamers later on in the project here it is since i had no access to any kind of sticker machine i had to go makeshift i needed something good quality waterproof and solid so i decided to print it on photo glossy paper laminate it but im still finding some sort of sticky backed adhesive to stick it down semi permanent so i gave it a god at printing i needed it 10.5x10.5 to fit the square with a little gap around the edge annoyingly my wireless printer started acting up and i could'nt control it by my pc :scratch_one-s_head: Trying to make do i used a sd card and put it on there then printed using the photo option annoyingly i could'nt get it to come out the right size and everytime it wanted to cut a piece of the design off..   i gave up any of you guys now how i could print the design the right size without cutting stuff off?? after i gave up for the time being i noticed the rain stopped and went back to cleaning after it was time to put the pc on the bench and test if it was working we kinda expected it to fail because of all are moving around of the components but it worked fine :i_am_so_happy:   for some reason the network card was having trouble under windows 98 (yeh i said windows 98) so we gave installing 2000 a go and worked fine obviously this is a temporary machine the whole project only costing £10.50 it was only designed to be a little project that could potentially evolve into something usable and powerful :biggrin_mini: one day im hoping to get a phenom 2 machine in here that will be the "Lanning Edition" Not very inttresting but i'll leave you at that for now guys
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Well time for an update i guess not much of an update though last thing i managed to get done is mount the powersupply in the case test the system and clean it next step was mounting inside the case and more work to the front panel i figured it would be a smart idea to actually mount the fan in the test panel to see if it would be hitting anything inside   im still working on the front panel it needs alot of work im thinking of spraying it matte black when im done but still not sure this mod is generally improvised as i go through anyway back on topic  i went ahead and mounted the psu on the top of the case ready to insert the rest and test when i remebered the front panel  heres where the motherboard would fit i still need to create a back panel for the i/o and power supply connector but that will come a little later in the mod good job i checked out that fan placement because trying to place it in i realized the friggen thing did'nt fit! it was about 2 mm in the way of the psu and instead of budging it over that 2mm i decided to put it to the left this will leave room for my 7" psone lcd i will be adding later as soon as i get a new system with 2 outputs  from this angle it almost looks like the powersupply is touching the mobo but it is'nt its got plenty of room so don't worry about that im hoping to stick a secret weapon in the back also to kick the heat from these things into shape  Big fan =D this is a fan from a fan assited oven its brand new that my dad got for free this thing pulls alot of air and will keep this entire system as cool as a cucumber pulling cool air in from the front with the small 80mm and pulling all the hot air out from the rear uhhhhhhh 160mm? i may be wrong im pretty sure its bigger than 120mm the outer casing of it is aluminium so its pretty heavy duty  this will be the new position of the fan ignorantly i placed it on the wrong side image it underneith the keyswitch and the lack of hole in the center good job i made this mockup panel  Thats all for now i guess been busy with college but im getting some great ideas for this project in the process i'll keep you posted 
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Well been busy lately and have'nt got to much done but i think im going to a little more today but heres where got so far motherboard has been mounted aswell as psu on bolts and some plastic spacers i made to stop the board warping when being moved  so themotherboard is mounted and psu next was the harddrive and it was going to be the same mounting method working with tight space and wanting to keep the i/o panel there was only one place to mount it and that included drilling holes in the top of my case   even though i was'nt so happy we managed to get it under the place a design was being placed but still.. it worked out great there was a good space between each component and they where placed securely with no risk of breaking falling or damage.  made a back panel to use the i/o panel and it worked out better than i expected little rough here and there but looked great and it was really deep the case because of how everything was mounted i could'nt beleive what had been squeeze between such a small space the case is pretty damn small by itself let along squeeze it into a smaller space  if you remeber right the front panel went a little wrong and did'nt fit because of the fan well that was fixed by moving the fan to the left so after doing we went ahead and done it to the front panel i think it turned out pretty darn good  last thing we done was cut a hole for the power plug this was important because we did'nt want this thing popping out nobody wants to be playing with mains voltages  the gaps around the edge will be sealed up to clean it up so does'nt look so rough all i got for now but should be alot more to come need to wire up the front panel make sure the inside is all connected and working paint and some more cosmetics including Photoshop Wizards design also considering modding some spare peripherals to sit along next to it
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[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbUFRdaJ7xo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbUFRdaJ7xo[/url] Hey guys have'nt done much to this lately because of christmas and work thought i would keep it fresh and heres a tiny update on whats to come  Heres a few thing i bought today for the project  This is kinda weird i found it for a meisly pound! thought i would give it a go for Photoshop Wizards designs and one for the top hopefully it should work out well  16 mini clips  this is for another project (that i may make a post on one day) but still i will be using these most likely And this  Ok so i went back to the shop i got the original ammo can from and decided to look and see if there was anything else that could help me i stumbled across another box but this time it was a little different almost like a tin it was in two halfs and looked rather weird so i decided to ask the owner how it went together because i could'nt for the life of me see! it was only £4.50 and looked perfect for wires and accesories to go along with it we where there for 15 minutes trying to see how it clamped together with no luck it looked like there needed to be something between the two pieces so i left it just out of pure curiousity i asked "Do you have anything similiar" so we went looking around and he spotted something i felt so bad because this must have be 5 more minutes and i had no intention of buying anything so he pulls down another ammo box shaped like you would expect made from wood i felt bad for wasting his time so i decided to buy it just not to seem an arse it was pretty stinky and battered but i think i could use it as somewhere to store the mouse games headset and other cables when its 100% finished (which is'nt until i get some cash thrown at me to get a mini itx system) here she is!       does'nt look so bad in real life flash makes it look so much worse made from generic stinky plywood but thats ok i know its not much but its something to get my brain juices flowing again :biggrin_mini2:
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Still nothing much done probebly get down there this weekend but heres some ideas i want you guys to help me with went back to the army surplus and picked up what i thought was a grenade carrier turned out to be ammo box carrier which makes more sense like what i went to look at last tinme but got the wooden one  anyway heres my idea seeming the whole system will be rather easily transported the rest is not im thinking of modding this for the lcd and peripherals top half mount the lcd in or have it on and be able to flip up bottom half line with foam and put mouse games etc then use the bars on the side to mount the keyboard   The paint is rather battered so im considering using the angle grinder down to bare metal and respraying matte black to match the case seeming it has no real histroical value   both pieces together  both pieces apart  and together the problem with this thing is it easily falls apart when put down on the ground so it needs to be held at all times to stay together if there was a ammo box in there it would probebly stay in one piece because its being supported  if my plan goes well i'll use this lcd  but i think it may be a little too big so i will have to mod the bezel the reason im using this one is because its insanely light meaning won't fall off and make the box any heavier than it already is!! if not i will use this 17" its alot better res but alot heavier at that  with this camo i've had since the very beginning  draped and glued onto the bezel with maybe some form of sticker i'll also be using this keyboard and mouse set not sure what i plan on doing to this maybe nothing we'll see 
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Monitor ModsConcept stagesHey guys so you know i got the ammo carrier for a potential monitor mod well today i decided to put my concept to the test first was seeing if the monitor would fit with the bezel it was roughly the same size but when put together the bezel increase it a little too much so i decided to go into the undergrowth and take it apart i've tryed this once before and i cou;d'nt get it open to si thought i would end up having to cut the bezel off! lucky i managed to find a successful technique of prying it off with flat head scredrivers without damaging anything.  Heres the monitor with its rear off just disconnecting the not needed headphone and audio from the foot of the monitor and proceeded to take the rest of the screws out to get to the lovely lovely lcd underneith :biggrin_mini2: will have to find a new place inside the case and extent the power cables to turn the thing on else this will be quite pointless :scratch_one-s_head:     could'nt beleive the fit the lcd is literally a millimetre smaller than the base sadly it will have to go into the base instead of the top but thats not problem theres a few features on the base that make this even better the top will still probebly be peripherals but they will have to go into another small box or something industrial velcroed to the top not sure yet we'll see.  could'nt sit perfect in the base because of the vga cable needs a little dremel work to make that sit nice but not to much trouble (i hope)  you see its pushed up one side but with a little work it will fit nice  CHECK IT OUT! Monitor stand! not as stable as i would hope but i can fix that with a little metal work should work perfect  bit to much of a tilt for my liking but nothing a makshift support won't fix im sure  EESH! BRIGHT! sorry but without it its impossible to see so heres the stand from the rear i plan on adding some rubber feel and weight support to the back to keep it steady but not so its taking away the look of the whole project   Concept of the design beleive me it will look 20x better when its done  more bending and dremel work to be done to this to make it sit inside like i want it  also here  once its done i'll be using this camo (like i always say) to drape around the bezel of the monitor using some form of temporary glue nice and tight so it does'nt block my viewing   Yeh i know its kinda crappy looking at the moment but ALOT of work needs to be done to it  finally the base with the top List of things to be doneTest concept: [color="#00FF00"]DONE[/color] Grind all paint from steel case: [color="#FF0000"]PENDING[/color] dremel away cable holes / mounting areas: [color="#FF0000"]PENDING[/color] paint matte black + yellow details for writing: [color="#FF0000"]PENDING[/color] fix monitor bezel (paint/cover): [color="#FF0000"]PENDING[/color] install monitor mounting: [color="#FF0000"]PENDING[/color] finishing aestehtic touchs: [color="#FF0000"]PENDING[/color]
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Monitor Mods 2Done some work on the monitor today while i had some time got some emery cloth so went ahead and scuffed and prepped the metal for matte black  sanded a little    top and bottom done a little bit  and some more  then took a cloth thats a little damp and cleaned the dust off if you do this only have it a little bit damp else it will just wet it instead of picking up the dust  while i left them outside to dry i went and started prepping the monitor  completely forgot about cutting holes for cables so had to make sure it was all working first  ahh..  considered removing the mains power board but without any proper insulation underneith it would'nt work  cable management to get it all working right  much better  the power and reset needed to be mounted internally and with a spare rocker switch i could just extend them but before it needed to be properlly insulated with proffesional equipment  what is this wonderess material i speak of?  plastic insulation posistioned  pro tape job (temporary)  New switch  need a slot for the vga and a hole for the new switch here  and a hole for power here  by the time i got this done my neice was falling asleep with her head on the carpet so no drilling for me tonight  More to come i will probebly be painting tommorow and drilling so we should get the basics done.
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What an epic first post! Welcome to Losias!
I've always loved ammo case mods, and I'll admit I haven't seen one in a while. Yours definitely takes it to another level. I also love the integrated LCD (obviously I'm a big fan of those). I'm really looking forward to more!
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Thanks craig this project was mainly a stepping stone to the more extreme one its just to get myself into it a bit more and to show i can still do it. Im hoping to incorporate much better things into V2 better hardware but materials better aesthetics i just went to the Diy store today and the amount of ideas that flew into my head when i saw some things blew my mind when you have the juices flowing its hard to stop but first we must get V1 done 
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Haha, isn't it awesome when the ideas start flowing in? You find yourself always thinking ahead, and wanting to incorporate every last bit of awesomeness that you can. You're off to a mighty fine start with v1, so there's no doubt v2 will be even more refined.
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Whoa this is really cool. pretty impressed by what i see! don't see many matching monitor and pc mods thats gonna work great together. lol yeah networking on win98 is a prick i feel you there, don't have fond memories of those days. Need to get more details on your hardware please? Even if it's old I'd like to know just for fun.
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Thanks im hoping it will work well. Hardware is probebly not worth going over think prehistoric 
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Well, if you're hardware is that old, you can always upgrade in future I guess, do your mod some justice.
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Looking at it from my perspective, I can see how it came across rude. Cuzza, please consider this a warning and be a bit nicer about how you approach things. A gentle push can go a long way.
Deadp1xels, continue on. Always good to have more contribution!
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Well if you insist
its something along the lines of
Cryix m300 2 (Around 200-300mhz) 48mb of ram 10gb harddrive i believe
Thats about it laughable to some people but still relativly useable, Im hoping to get one of the intel little falls 2 motherboards in there and use it as a media server with a 500w Matx psu i have and some other decent-ish bits.
Would like to be using a matx phenom 2 system in the next version because im hoping to get a second case exactly the same if i can and using better stuff altogether at the moment my budget just won't cut it.
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 Re: Project: Lanmunition V1 [Sponsored by Mnpctech.com]
Nothing wrong with older hardware at all. It never get slower, we just expect more from it as time goes on. I've got a few older rigs here that I play with just for nostalgia's sake. Ah, things were simpler back then... 
_________________ dude, stop trying to create Skynet. at this point, the scale goes - metric tons of awesome < epic < overkill < you ~ShadowHunter
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